From the people behind Vantage Men
A letter to the man who is good at everything except this
Dear friend,
You are not bad with women. Nobody ever taught you.
That sounds like a line, so let us be precise. There is a set of skills most men were supposed to pick up by accident, somewhere between fourteen and twenty-two: starting a conversation with a stranger, showing interest without becoming someone else, keeping a first date from turning into an interview, saying what you want out loud, walking away when you should.
Some men got lucky. An older brother, a friend group that went out every weekend, a first girlfriend who was patient. Most men got nothing, and were then told the problem was their personality.
It was never the personality. It was the missing skill. And a skill, unlike a personality, can be learned.
The moment
You probably know the exact moment it started to bother you.
For a lot of men it is a Friday, late. A party or a bar. One woman you noticed the whole night and never spoke to. On the way home you write the perfect opening line in your head. It is good. It is always good, on the way home.
You never forget a thing like that, because it repeats.
"Hey, I noticed you were the only person laughing at the right moments. I'm…"
(sent to nobody)
The same week, over and over
Not because you are not smart. Not because you are not trying. You are probably trying harder than the men it comes easily to.
It is the week that repeats. Work. Gym, maybe. The apps on Sunday night, deleted by Tuesday. Friday, the party, the woman, the silence. The forum thread at 2 a.m. that contradicts the last one.
- MonWork. Reinstall the app.
- TueDelete the app.
- WedWork.
- ThuGym. Nothing else.
- FriParty. Saw her. Said nothing.
- SatWrote the perfect line. 00:12.
- SunForum thread. Angrier than before.
Why the advice did not work
You have read the advice. Probably a lot of it. Looking back, there are three reasons it changed nothing.
It contradicted itself, because it came from men describing what worked for them once. 'Be more assertive.' 'You are too intense.' Two verdicts, opposite directions, the same you.
It asked you to perform. Lines, routines, an attitude to put on. It worked until she asked a question the script did not cover, and then it felt like lying, because it was.
And nothing was measured. You felt different for a week after a good video. Then the feeling faded and you had no way to tell whether anything had changed, so you went back for another video.
Thread, 2019"Be more assertive. Women want a man who leads."
Thread, 2021"You're too intense. Back off and let her come to you."
YouSame man. Same month.
What changes it
At some point you have to treat this the way you would treat anything else you got good at: as training. A plan. Small reps you can do badly on Tuesday and better on Thursday. Numbers you write down on day one and again on day thirty, so you know instead of hope.
That is the whole method, and it is almost boring. The men it works for are not the smoothest men in the room. They are the ones who did the rep when they did not feel like it, and scored themselves honestly afterwards.
| Row | Day 1 | Day 30 |
|---|---|---|
| Approach frequency | ●○○○○ | ●●●○○ |
| Recovery after a no | ●●○○○ | ●●●●○ |
| Showing intent | ●○○○○ | ●●●○○ |
| Standards | ●●○○○ | ●●●●○ |
Two reasons it works
Every time this works, it works for the same two reasons.
The first is a framework: six questions that tell you, in under a minute, whether a piece of dating advice is worth your time. It is on the next page, and you can use it on everything you have ever read, including us.
The second reason we will show you once you have put the framework to the test.
Vantage Men